There was nothing more to say,I presented the probability odds based on scientific minds
of evolution vs creation .I don't have to prove I'm right the creation itself testify to Jehovah's eternal power.
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Evolution - A Conversation with Alex Williams
by cofty inalex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.
this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.
it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.
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What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Alex Williams inmatthew 24:14 new international version (niv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.
both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.
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James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)
Faith Without Works Is Dead
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What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Alex Williams inmatthew 24:14 new international version (niv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.
both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.
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Faith Without Works Is Dead
As well as works without faith is also
"Once a person is saved"No one is now saved,Jesus plainly said :
New American Standard Bible
"But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.Paul liken this fight for life as a race and said run with endurance which suggest if one didnt continue to run will lose the race,so no one is saved,thats like saying Ive finished the race Ive won and not come to the finish line
Each one now is being judged by how they respond to the Good news of Gods Kingdom,if one accept the message and repent will be lead to Christ as one of his sheep if they continue reject the Kingdom message they will be judged as a goat and be destroyed:
Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV)
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?
by Alex Williams inthis is what jesus said.
matt 24-14.
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. looking at this verse what is the central theme?
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This is what Jesus said
Matt 24-14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Looking at this verse what is the central theme? the gospel [which means good news] or the Kingdom
Its the Good News of Gods Kingdom.
What group preaches the Good News of Gods Kingdom as Jesus predicted? The Churches of Christendom? or Jehovah;s Witnesses.
Well in order to preach this gospel you would have to believe its operational would you not?
Was this Kingdom predicted in the Old Testament ?
When was it to be established?
What exactly is God Kingdom
The answers to these questions will mistakenly proof what religion God is using and which one is of the Devil,of the Devil? have you ever heard a witness say one of two religions preaching Christ is of the Devil? Take Islamic religions do they preach Christ? NO,so they are eliminated which condemns close to 1.6 billion worshipers to death forever because Jesus said after the Good news is preached the End will come.
The circling is believed to demonstrate the unity of the believers in the worship of the One God, as they move in harmony together around the Kaaba, while supplicating to God.What does this have to do with the Good news about Gods Kingdom as Jesus predicted bu just millions walking around a shrine of Idol? NOTHING
What about Mormons they believe in Jesus? yes but
they do not believe in biblical inerrancy. They have also adopted additional scriptures, including the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.Do they preach about Gods Kingdom? NO instead they believe an angel named
Moroni provided gold plates in upstate New York which was the basics for book of MormonThis religion is elimanated and 17 million face death
False Idol worship by Mormons
OK lets answer those questions to see what religion is approved by God
Was this Kingdom predicted in the Old Testament ? YES
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
So the prophet Daniel predicted one day God would set up his heavenly Kingdom the same one Jesus predicted would be preached in the end times where we are now. He also predicted God kingdom would take action and eliminate all earthly Kingdoms or governments which is what a Kingdom is.
"It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end"
This must then be the end Jesus spoke of
"and then the end will come."When was it to be established?
JWs say 1914 when do Churches who preach Christ say it was established? They dont
“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom"What exactly is God Kingdom
The Kingdom of God is a heavenly government. It will replace all other governments and will cause God’s will to be done in heaven and on earth. A kingdom must have a king. Jehovah appointed his Son, Jesus Christ, to be King of His Kingdom.
Revelation 11:15
15 The seventh angel blew his trumpet.a And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lordb and of his Christ,c and he will rule as king forever and ever.This topic was:
What Biblical message should be proclaimed now according to Jesus himself ?
and the question was asked:
What group preaches the Good News of Gods Kingdom as Jesus predicted?
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Evolution - A Conversation with Alex Williams
by cofty inalex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.
this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.
it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.
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if you are serious about knowing truth
I know the truth,all I really need to know is Jehovah himself drew me out from the world,I didnt just wake up one morning and decided to start attending the KH I knew nothing of witnesses.He lovingly guided me like a father would and was patient and merciful,all I can say is what he has done for me
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What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Alex Williams inmatthew 24:14 new international version (niv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.
both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.
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Actually if you research the most accurate NT its JWs New Translation ranked 1st with Goodspeed version by Bible Greek scholar Colwell famous for Colwell rule
The King James was ranked dead last in the Study of Greek text whats the most accrucate NT
http://newworldtranslation.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-new-world-translation-is-best-new.html
JWs New World Translation is the Best New Testament According to E.C. Colwell
criteria. Translation Agrees with the Critical Text Agrees with the later Textus Receptus Other New World Translation 64 0 0 21st Century NT* 64 0 0 Goodspeed* 64 0 0 Rotherham 62 2 0 Byington/BLE 61 3 0 New Revised Standard 60 3 1 20th Century NT 59 4 1 Lattimore 59 5 0 New American Standard 59 5 0 Westminster 58 6 0 American Standard Ver. 58 6 0 Revised Version 1885 57 7 0 Beck's An American Trans 56 8 0 New Jerusalem Bible 56 8 0 Revised Standard Version 56 8 0 New American Bible 56 7 1 Moffatt 56 7 1 New Berkeley Version 56 7 1 Riverside New Testament 55 9 0 Barclay's New Testament 55 8 1 Kleist & Lilly New Test. 55 9 0 Wuest's Expanded Trans. 54 10 0 New English Bible 53 9 2 Holman Christian Standard 53 11 0 God's Word Translation 53 11 0 Weymouth's New Test. 53 11 0 Williams New Testament 52 12 0 English Standard Version 52 10 2 Spencer 51 13 0 New International Version 51 10 3 Basic English Bible 51 12 1 New Century Version 51 12 1 International Standard Ver 50 14 0 Ferrar Fenton 50 14 0 Good News Bible 50 12 2 Jerusalem Bible 49 15 0 Recovery NT 49 15 0 NET Bible 49 13 2 Jewish NT 49 13 2 The Message 48 13 3 Centenary Version 47 16 1 Contemporary English Ver 46 15 3 JB Phillips 45 17 2 Living Bible 42 15 7 New Living Translation 41 19 4 Amplified Bible 37 27 0 Confraternity Version 35 27 2 Concordant Literal NT 25 28 1 Knox Version 33 29 2 Challoner 25 27 2 Hebrew Names Version 8 55 1 New King James Version 0 63 1 Revised Webster 0 64 0 King James Version 0 64 0
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What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Alex Williams inmatthew 24:14 new international version (niv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.
both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.
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Tenacious ,you cant just come to him Jesus made that clear
John 6:44 New International Version
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws himOne has to be qualified to be chosen By God himself ,he is the creator and has the say as to who comes to Jesus
Doug Hi I use all Scriptures because many say you witnesses have your own bible,so I can use anyone to show what was said
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What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Alex Williams inmatthew 24:14 new international version (niv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.
both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.
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Matthew 24:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever
Both teachings will be from verses in NWT and mainstream translation of Christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :
1 Tim 3-16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.It was slanted to promote the Trinity saying God came to earth instead of the Son
Several other translation recognized this was in error of translation and corrected the text
ESV
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:sHe5 was manifested in the flesh,the[ 5 ]there says Greek Who; some manuscripts God;
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh,
New Living Translation
Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human bodySo the text was Christ came to earth not God,the word God was not in the original Greek text
KJV is widely used in Christendom
Another error in translation
John 8-7 KJV
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone John 8-7This verse was added by the scribe ,not originally in the Greek text,Jesus never said these words
These are many more errors or misleading verses,one more passage to get the wrong conclusion;
King James 2000 Bible
Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:He couldnt have told Mary this after his resurrection because later that day he told Thomas to touch me stick your hands in me,several others corrected the text;
Holman Christian Standard Bible
"Don't cling to Me,NWT Jehovah's Witness
"Don't cling to Me
Christian Standard Bible
"Don't cling to me,
New American Standard Bible
Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to MeSo for these reasons I will refer to several translations to get the complete understanding as to what was said and how it was said,there are many many more verses that either mislead or slant the text to the translators personal belief
Ill google what is the Rapture?
http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/jesus.htm
https://billygraham.org/answer/what-is-the-rapture/
https://activechristianity.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-rapture
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.Thats the belief of the Churches of Christendom This is suppose to happen when the end comes those saved will be wisked away to Heaven to forever be with Jesus.
JWs teaching
New World begins here on eart for 1,000 years
The Churches have a problem with this verse
Rev 20-2
New International Version
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.This is what Witnesses believe that the earth will be a paradise and Satan will be released to mislead earth inhabitants all over again
Rev 20 3
And he cast him into the Abyss, and shut and sealed it over him, so that he should not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed. After these things it is necessary for him to be released for a little time.The problem is since all the saved were taken to heaven a 1000 earlier where these people come from who Satan misleads after being released,certainly not those who are in heave would come back to the earth after their reward to be tempted by the Devil and a chance to be destroyed,makes no sense
JW teaching makes more sense that during the 1,000 many ones will be born and never was tempted loyalty and those ones who survived the end will grow to perfection and can now say they are under Adamic sin he brought on all mankind ,thats why Satan was not destroyed 1,000 earlier,man always told God why do I have to suffer for what one man did if I was there I may have been obedient ,so they will get that chance standing on their own merit
Ive asked preachers that question as to where the people come form to be tempted by the Devil and some say those saved a 1,000 earlier will come back to the earth with Christ who will set up his Kingdom here on earth,so what was the purpose of the Devil not being destroyed 1,000 earlier and will those who were in heaven now back on earth be the ones tempted,they dont know but just say Revelation is a book of symbols
There you have it both beliefs ,which one harmonizes with the scriptures
The Churches of Christemdom
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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??
by Festus inis this a bad joke or "fake news"?.
nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".
eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.
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As a such loyal and practising Jehovah Witness that you sound that you are, just the access to this site is counted as apostasy.
No Im a voice in the wilderness sounding truth before the awe inspiring day of Jehovah,as we go from door to door many just dont open to us and have been for one reason or another have been mislead by what others have said.
Apostasy
the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief,
TO THE CONTARY I dont agree with the teachings here Ive stated that ,and haven't abandoned my beliefs,there may be some here who could listen to my writings,we look for sheep not to knock the horns off goats
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Questions About the Watchtower's View on Blood Transfusions.
by Pallbearer ini admit to not being very well informed about the watchtower's view on blood transfusions.
i have a couple of questions that i hope someone here is able to answer.. i understand that the watchtower now considers it to be okay to receive blood fractions.. my first question is: are all fractions considered to be permissible?
and if not, specifically which fractions are not permissible?.
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It was water not blood that David refused,wrong to him it was blood thats why he didnt drink it